Torsion value vcds Hi I have not used VCDS for a while , While doing the timing belt on my BHC 1. 2006 TDI Jetta Torsion Value. 5 to +1. Click to expand New to the Site, My Vehicle 2006 Jetta 1. If the torsion value is retarded or advanced, could it trow the code? comments sorted by Best Hi booke, there is no torsion value in group 4 just the four sets that I've listed I'm using vcds release 12. The boxes from left to right are engine speed (828), injection start (5. 5 before I started fiddling with it. Please help. As for setting the Torsion value with a VCDS, I have neglected to set mine for the past 25k miles, and the cars runs great. Before hand it was -1. Has anyone else set up their car timing on a 1. Air system part I: Turbo. 9 (MINUS SIX POINT NINE). 0 tdi BMP So I set the Torsion to -1. However, on my VAGCOM in group 004 I get readings for: RPM, Igniton timing(0 degrees BTDC), and the last two boxes are labled 'Idle Stabilisation' and show a reading ending in CF instead of KW. 9KW, VCDS showed me 1. We use the VCDS block 15 liter per hour block to get the When it comes to Advanced Measuring Values, I don't think a "common answer" is possible. Should I try a more advanced setting, like 1. This needs to be done after you change the timing belt and should be done every once in a while to keep tabs on belt stretch and pump/pulley misalignment. Post by acom » Fri Jun 17 I've read on here that in order to check precision timing you can check the value in the Engine Measuring Block Group 4 Field 4 which should state a "Torsion" value in "degrees KW" Instead my VCDS (Registered Lite version) shows "Idle Stabilization" in "CF" in both field 3 and field 4 under Group 4 of the Engine Measuring Blocks But it would be running I think on the default value of 0 for torsion as the cam sensor and crank sensor are not close enough( even if the cam timing is right the cam sprocket is out a distance of one tooth). So I loosened them and made a small On VCDS my synchro angle (torsion value) group 4. 0 i could get i was expecting a major change to the way it felt and drove but feels about the same,noticed that my mpg seems a little lower on the dash MFD now Look at VCDS fuel consumption value before the adjustment, at idle (Block 015 if I remember correctly). La mine, motor BKP, dupa 25. 5º, but starting still hesitant, hot or cold. On VCDS my synchro angle (torsion value) group 4. 0 to -4. Last edited: Jan 9, 2012. 0 and idle injection values all over the place is not as good as a -1 or +1 with a idle injection values TDI VCDS Info Updated 11 Apr. but when he is working even just for a minute in the next start is ok Here is attached picture with numbers. 0 when warm or cold? 0 0 0 . mentionez ca am schimbat distributia de <1000km si nu s-a facut atunci verificare cu vcds. 0) and I thought I got it back to 0 after my first move that took it to -1. The wiring from the ECU to the sensor shows 5V, 5V, and 0V. 5 some other guys see better gains at -1. 0 GT TDI (BKD) Camshaft position sensor/VCDS torsion value – 06-12-2021, 10:17 PM I’ve seen bizarre numbers on cheap eBay cam sensors and also when the cam pulley tabs get damaged. Obviosuly i want to get the timing as close to 0. acom Newbie Posts: 29 Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:37 pm Has thanked: 6 times Been thanked: 5 times. 0 to + 2. Recommended Posts. ( although it must be said I didn't check that way often mainly at That was my thought too. If i accelerate fast, the value raises to +1. VCDS-- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 22. 0 TDI BMN 170 and also the L/h value in vcds That is, with Torsion Value at -2. 0 for a torsion value. 0, right? God bless this forums and youtube. Someone reported having only 0. 3 ATDC), injection duration (550), and high fuel pressure (336 bar). Im am checking the torsion value with my vcds & its at 4. A log from a Touareg with 50,000M in LA will produce vastly different logs from a Touareg with 300,000M in Denver; for example. 0, which was good for having set the timing with the timing belt tools. Joined Feb 23, 2013 Location I just replaced the head on my 2006 Jetta 1. Jump to Latest 5. 9 pd 8v tdi using VCDS . 63 grade, valoare pozitiva. Should the value change if i rev the engine at standstill ? Value torsion ou angle de synchronisation (1 Membre) Initiateur de la discussion lionelcorbie80; Date de début 28/11/20; lionelcorbie80 Modérateur. 3. 2-0. 0 on the the torsion after this procedure has been carried out so its quite First of all i have checked on advanced measuring blocks on cam speed and torsion value and found the sensor to drop out. 7 posts · Joined 2018 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 19, 2018. The standard procedure for this is to have the engine idling at operating temperature (coolant temp >85*C), go to Also check the camshaft torsion value as that can affect MPG . Still getiting 50mpg+ on a run. So if you do not have that version of VCDS you CAN NOT use the mobile app. 9 TDI Feb 23, 2019 #7 Is there any other software that shows this "torsion value - camshaft timing" besides VCDS? Would Torque Pro for A KKL wire and VCDS-Lite will work fine. Torsion value I have golf 5 1. A3 8P CFFB 2. 1 (x64) I'm asking in general, is that you should query the RTFB and check timing, since that is recent work history right and torsion value is what it is & yes it's gear driven, The problem is when I check on my VCDS, the torsion value was at 0. I made a custom program that injects same amount of fuel 16mg/stroke all the time for full rev range on a 1. On a single cam engine like AWX, the way to adjust torsion value (VCDS group 4, value 4) , is to loosen the 3 bolts, move the cam a tiny bit, and then fasten the 3 bolts again, and then one have moved the timing from like -1. Hello everyone Im trying to see/set the cam timing but unable to find torsion value think it was group 004 if memory is right, did we rename it or change the group #? Benevolent Dictator. Hi, I upload photo from vcds. 2 l/h (!!!) with timing set at -3. Idles and runs nicely but it just takes a second or two of cranking before it catches. Joined May 18, 2000 Location columbia,MO,usa TDI Torsion value I have golf 5 1. 0 is where it should be although that varies from car to car a bit. Now this looseness wasn't bad, I read the torsion angle on VCDS and it was only at 1. We tended to figure that 0. When I decelerate from 3500rpm it shows 0. I commute about 30k a year, so a small increase in mileage is a good thing. I am interested is my torsion value form -5. Here are the readings from VCDS: Fuel temp @ idle: 132 Start of Injection: 65 What is your Torsion Value in group 004? I have tried several positions, at +4 torsion value I had 0. Her car is the same year, same engine. 5 value. 3 month ago and the previous owner had just had the timing belt changed. Remember the front cam adjusts torsion & the rear will have to be adjusted to suit although there is no way of checking the rear on VCDS, rough idle is a sign the rear cam is out VCDS Group 4 Engine Idle Speed : Injection Duration : Torsion Value : VCDS Group 15 Engine Torque : Fuel Consumption : If you could do the above with no power consumers on, and then engine up to temperature I'd really appreciate it. 5, it means your belt is timed perfectly. I know that if its off too far it will read 0. The hub is attached to the cam The "0. And im worried damage was done. 3 at the moment and it runs ok . I've VCDS Torsion Value - Passat. Saturday,17,December,2016,10:27:05:64639 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 16. It's normal for that value to automatically change to 0 after it has been successfully saved. So tightened with a ring spanner and marked with a marker pen and turned the engine briefly to bring the bolt out of the way. 5 I haven't yet pulled the timing cover off, enough to see the cam sprocket adjustment slots, as I do not yet know how to pull it Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. Attachments. Has 0. 4 moves anywhere from 0. In pre-UDS modles, Advanced Measuring Values only exist if there's a label file for the module in question, and whether a specific data item is available via Advanced Measuring Values depends on the content of that label file. W. Thanks to all. 1 1. 8/-3. Please consider creating a new thread. If torsion value and the idle fuel consumption is within spec you need to search the fault from dragging brakes etc. 5° at idle, which is pretty far off of zero, but not out of the (wide) range of values that people in various forums have set it to and claimed improvements in power or fuel economy. 5yrs before I finally changed it and didn't vary more than . The torsion value is located in VCDS/Engine Module/ block 4/ torsion value. 60l/h for the exhaust cam. Just checked the engine/block 4/ torsion value on VCDS and got a reading of 1. Thank you Checked torsion value and it is 2. 4 seconds before the stall the torsion value dropped to 0. 9L TDI BRM engine. 0 TDI-PD, BMR, DSG. Because of the cost of a MAF sensor I The confusion arises because "torsion value" is the strange name that is sometimes used for the mechanical timing between the cam and crank on PD engines. the initial advance took it outside of limits but showed zero on VCDS I saw people using group 4 engine module, and torsion value should be near 0. 2 degrees retarded. T. I have checked the torsion value in vcds and it's in spec at 0. However, early on, we had a Passat Wagon that lost 4 mpg when we set the torsion value to 0. The torsion value magically went from 0. 0? I need some help reading these measuring blocks. cruiserboy Well-known member. Isn't this meaning that SOI happens before top dead center? But negative torsion value in group 004 means retarded, right? So I don't understand this . When using VAG com i have found "Torsion Value" is at +2. 1. And now is my injections and consumption value ok. Does anyone know why my vcds lite is not showing torsion value? Has anybody fine tuned there values for maximum economy? Cheers Howey . 1 x64 VCDS Version: 17. 9 l/h and now, at -2 torsion value I have 0. 9 (advanced). 7 ,the car was at 2. Mk4 Golf . So I decided to look around at other stuff. 4 , yesterday i adjusted it to -0. truman Top Post Dawg. Membre du Staff. If omitting to do cam timing to zero torsion value results in a 13% drop in fuel economy or if a belt can stretch that much over time then thats a lot of . 9 in idle. 0 TDI BKD code. 20220130_153608. Joined On VCDS my synchro angle (torsion value) group 4. Has also tried +1. 0 was a good figure and originally let it VCDS: I noticed my Torsion values reading this while the engine was hot: Video of my live VCDS data - Torsion Value Problem If any more information is needed let me know, I suspect it's a wiring fault from the camshaft sensor to the ECU. Get your mechanic to fit the belt & check the torsion after its fitted & up to temperature, make any adjustments from there. But I'd love to Hi guys Trying to see if I ave a timing issue. Soon after it started to get a few codes. 4 Data version: 20200730 DS317. 5 or -0. com Dealer/Shop Name: VIN: License Plate: Mileage: 252730km Which channel and block is the torsion value displayed? Reply. 000 Km), Torsion value (Grup 4, camp 4 pe modulul Engine, VCDS) era de 2. Mark Forums Read (group 068 on VCDS engine measuring blocks) which is the accumulated ash reading as a full or nearly full DPF can cause the - checked the torsion value and this was -2. - Most of the useful MVB information for this transmission controller can be found in the first 30 or so MVBs, so you do not need to worry about searching through all the possible blocks and that hold true with most control modules. His 1's looks like a 7's. I tried to advance this value to 0. 5°KW but regardless if I turn the camshaft sprocket clockwise or counterclockwise, the value is always at 0. Before (while there was previous timing belt I set value on -3) car was going better,and lower consumption too. In the version I have (17. Car is slow to start. 5 to -2. 2 there too. 12. Não encontrei um tópico dedicado ao "Torsion Value" decidi criar este, de maneira a que cada um possa partilhar as experiências ao ajusta-lo. Mine had were all the way to one side. 4TDI which is 3 cylinder diesel engine. 8 at idle thanks Running VCDS 18. New water pump, tensioner, idler , belts. For it’s 2nd change last year I used my Merc indie (Autoelite in Hull ) one of the techs has an Audi and they have all the VAG equipment. We While do some reading and research, I came across a post about the three bolts in the camshaft being in the center of the windows. The car starts and runs fine, but when I check it with VCDS block 004 it's always 0, now. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Got my torsion value to 0 from - 2. Should I check the torsion value on my car before I change the belt and then set it back to the same value or should I reset it to Or is it neccesary to hook up the engine to vcds afterwards, and then finetune the camshafts ? I really miss some qualified information on how to finetune the camshafts via vcds. the cars starts right up. This one is dead on zero in idle. 0 is this good? Some forums says -1, -2,5 etc is good and some says 0. We just changed the fuel filter in it and I hooked it up to my VCDS to look at some things and I noticed that the timing torsion value is -2. 2 max and mainly not at all throughout the rev range. Share More sharing options Followers 0. Sorry for hijacking the tread but i want to ask the same thing. The engine was cold, so I didn-t get the chance to try a higher rpm. 0 and when I blip the throttle it goes to 1. 2 Data version: 20161129 DS267. Lookin into my lock switch issue. It is at -62KW! Everything I read states that is not even a possible value. Next time, try supporting the engine from below, so you can raise or lower to deal with the engine bracket and its bolts. For instance, if you often log Vehicle Speed, Engine Speed, Intake Air Mass, and Ignition timing, then you can create a file to quickly load those selections again. Shoutbox. 5 as it was as close to 0. Hi all, Can you check torsion value with VCDS lite or do you need the full version, changed TB (ASZ PD130) and want to The car starts up very well, runs extremely smoothly, but I was a bit disappointed by the throttle response. The other option is to spend $78 on the tools from Dieselgeek, and take off a bunch of stuff to check the timing. In the same time, I have an I've been trying to get it going and the first problem I noticed was my torsion value. I have never heard it used for VE engines. Inscrit 30/11/19 messages 3 755 Localisation Corbie -80- VCDS Non. Nice thing about messing with the torsion value is that it's a 5 mins job (Loosen came sprocket bolts, and rotate the cam ever so slightly either clockwise or counter clockwise With vcds you can read the torsion value of your engine. If it changes from 0 to 0. It is possible that the manufacture's Is this possible on these engines? i'm assuming its the 'relative camshaft intake position' measuring value as this shows -3. 1 (x64) Data version: 20220401 DS337. 1 or . 0°KW. 50 in the box. As for changing the cam timing (or torsion value as it's referred to in VCDS) some guys see a decent gain running +1. I then let the car idle. But now car lacks power,and fuel comsumptin went higher. 0 was a good figure and originally let it Well that made me suspicious so when I got home I checked the torsion value with vcds. Ja paljon se pitäisi olla nokkapyörä optimaalisesti Just as an update for anyone who may find themselves in the same situation in the future - yes, i guess on *some* versions of VCDS lite, torsion value comes up as "steering angle sensor". The cars getting lest then great mileage (800km per vented tank). +ve = camshaft advanced relative to crankshaft -ve = camshaft retarded relative to crankshaft. In legatura cu avansul miei imi apare ca torsion value, acuma ca e tosion sau unghiul de sincronizare e partea a2a dar nustiu daca e ok atata timp cat nu il masoara, eu m citirea parametrilor punerii la punct la un passat b6, 2. I had it scanned and the torsion value was at -2. 9tdi 90HP engine code BXJ 2008 and the VCDS says i have torison value of 0. 3 for the 5. 2013. Save Share Reply Quote Like. You should select the highest value that allows data to be displayed for all of the The car has had the 16725 code since I got it. 4KW. To change the torsion value, you loosen the three bolts that hold the toothed cam sprocket to the hub underneath. 4 Ive attached a pic of the data log which has the torsion value on it, also the smooth idle injection data. which way would I jump it a tooth? Last edited: Feb 13, 2017. On my old 1. Suggest you keep an eye on your fuel consumption to compare with previous. Monday,09,November,2015,18:37:58:14423 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Once you remove the wheel, splash shield and the motor mount you will have a fair amount of room to work. If VCDS is showing that the torsion is correct I believe that the timing belt job was done correctly. Joined Jan 29, 2014 Messages 53,068 Reaction score 35,894 Location USA VCDS Serial number HC100001. I've also tried going into Advanced Measuring Values but there is no Torsion Value item to select. Share What is a "default" value? Take MAF readings, for example. The MAF is OK if the actual value is at least 850-900 mg/h at 3000 rpm. 2 MB · Views: 617 20220130_153755. be interested to hear any accounts , according to TDI forum even taking your torsion reading before changing belt with VCDS AND using proper lock out tools can produce variability of -2. 5 when idling) Is my timing advanced and causing an over-fuel? Help; Home; Forum; FAQ; Calendar; Forum Actions. Idle was smooth, but I was getting worse milleage with the It is idling a bit rough after warmup, so i figured i'd hook up the vcds and poke around. VCDS shows no codes. 0 was a good figure and originally let it The torsion value is not in basic settings (shareware dose not allow this) #62 audifan said: @fhl VCDS mobile is for their Hex-Net adapter ONLY. In urma acestei reglari nu s-a modificat mare lucru, consumul este ok, ca inainte, porneste parca putin mai greu, adica Re: VW Golf MK5 2. 0 value from) while driving or revving the engine. 9tdi (bxe engine) cam timing torsion value should be? I checked it about a week ago using VCDS and it was set to -3. People have reported increase in fuel consumption and/or loss of performance with increase in torsion value away from 0. Posted 24 September, 2013. However, early on, we had a Passat Wagon that lost 4 mpg when we set the torsion value to Found it pretty easy to do. Please don't use the shoutbox for complex questions! car year have you coded in obd11 or vcds etc there is no magic button to revert to factory setting you have to undo all your changes manually in Adaptions and Long Coding you can copy/paste if you have backup Nov 21 If you have vcds you might try tweaking the torsion a bit, usually right around 0. 7 I set on 0, because I read the best is near 0. So, I'm going to have to do fine tune the Regarding the torsion value. 05 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 1-0. Job done. 0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0. 0, indica a diferença entre cambota/cams, o que muito simplesmente permite controlar o ponto do motor em detalhe. C. 0 to -6. 0 as possible, but wondered if it was normal for the value to fluctuate. Thread starter dtreid; Start date Apr 13, 2012; D. Appreciate any help thanks > its a mk4 golf tdi (ARL) Diagnostics & VCDS ; Torsion value on Snap-on diagnostic? READ ME - iOS Notifications - How To Enable - Guide. orangetech Verified VCDS User. So a torsion value of 0. The value sometimes changes slightly (0. Tags mk4 golf. Is that maybe a problem? Save Share Reply Quote Like. 9tdi camshaft timing/torsion value incorrect? #4. Save Share Hello, I have a P0101 code on my 2004 Jetta TDI/5 Speed. 00 degrees. It showed 0. 6 degrees). I also wanted to see if I could figure out why my CEL is on for o2 sensor stuck rich P2196 (tried new o2 sensor, egr valve, and 2 cans of diesel purge). Modificat 24 Noiembrie, 2011 de mars01 Hi all, hope you can help :) I have VCDS and on the first day of scanning the engine I noticed that my torsion value is way out (was around 4 degrees) So I watched hundreds of videos online as well as read a lot of articles to find out what needs to be done and then done the fix which now fixed rough start from cold as well as torsion value is nearly 0. 9 the torsion value fluctuated in idle, all the time. Hello, I borrowed a friend's VCDS and I can't find the torsion value in Group 4, as described in other posts. 63 and I have moved the Inlet cam to get this to -0. 5 and guessing should be around 0-1 Code: Does anyone know why my vcds lite is not showing torsion value? Has anybody fine tuned there values for maximum economy? What was your engine cookwater temperature My question though is this: Does the VCDS torsion value figure represent degrees of rotation of the crankshaft or camshaft? obviously different as 1 degree of crankshaft rotation Hi all, my car is harder to start after a timing belt replacement, so i did a bit of research and saw that i can check the cam timing is in spec using vcds. nemoPD130 Discussion starter. I will say my MPG is down slightly and I have plans to adjust the torsion value properly, in the very near future. I was changing the torsion value yesterday (it was set at +2. Come to think of it my MFD was really out on this vehicle, over-reading by 13%, I corrected it via VCDS but maybe the engine will now be returning what the MFD used to say that it did. Torsion value in VCDS is 0 at this time. Is it correct that the inlet cam should be adjusted so the torsion value is "0. 5 Funny thing, I looked at that last week, when I was look for a torsion value and it flicked between He have checked torsion value with VCDS, and it says that it has a retarded torsion value of -5,5. By Taximan1978 6 August, 2019 in Skoda Octavia Mk II (2004 - 2013) Share I am not the best at explaining things especially without the correct terms and VCDS often has confusing terms like "torsion value" I even checked it with VCDS, and it was 0. 97 (Vag recommends -1. I only have the VCDS Lite (blocks 1-25). The decimal point is as Europeans use, a comma. 0TDi with no DPF and a lot of smoke when cold! Also a little bit lumpy when idling. Chiseled out all the carbon that I could. Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 20. Due to the brake resivour being in the way. Before the cam it was at 1. I don't know where you would find a similar "torsion" value in VCDS, but I suspect there must be one. In free Shareware mode, you are limited to live measuring values up to block 025. After the car was warmed up I adjusted the torsion value to 0. 3) in Group 4 I see ignition timing in block 2, and idle stabilization in block 4, where torsion value apparently is supposed to be. Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. 5 ? 2007 Passat B6 2. CAN based diagnostics began to appear in VW after the 2005 models - 2005. I'm just using VCDS Its is not reading it at all it just says 0. booke23. 0kw at idle! I'm guessing this isn't good!. Torsion value on Snap-on diagnostic? By Insanesnapshot 18 November, 2015 in Diagnostics & VCDS. But I think I may have been seeing the default 0 on VCDS. Re: 1. 0 but I have adjusted the timing gear on the cam in every position. The car runs fine no burping or Can anybody confirm what the golf mk5 1. Does VCDS present indications of compression issues that would justify having the compression checked? I went to Engine/Measuring Blocks/004/field 4 where it says "Torsion value" and it reads 1. Re: Torsion Value. Note: If a code is NOT shown in the VCDS pop-up balloon registered customers can Join our Forum-or- send the complete Auto-Scan via email with the recent repair history including the part This plug-in allows you to check the injection timing setting on a VE TDI engine (NOT PD or CR varieties). leeanderin. 9 and my idle to 0. vcds shows my torsion at 0. 8 1. 5. She bought it used approx. I would check the 'torsion' value in VCDS, it should be at "0" or very close to it. 0 A torsion value of -62 KW is Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. 0 www. It was +. Save Share VCDS HEX V2, MPPS, VAG Commander & VAG tacho - Mecanicul a nimerit din prima, adica dupa prima incercare de reglare pe VCDS arata 0 grade. 5 degree) with rpm. Checking the timing belt was fitted correctly requires the removal of a fair few parts to access the crank shaft toothed sprocket to fit the timing tool. 86 so its advanced quite a bit. Administrator. I recently rebuilt the motor (injectors, cam, lifters, TB, Clutch, Intercooler). Jump to Latest 6K views people seem to have problems with mileage after changing the timing belt and it seems to have something to do with the torsion value. Go to Engine Measuring Block 011; Start Logging the data; In a high gear (4th/5th) give full Wednesday,08,April,2020,11:54:18:62543 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 20. 5 l/h. What is the preferred value for mileage? Thanks & Merry Christmas. In UDS modules (which the OP seems to indicate he's VCDS can help you find this one: remove the EGR valve and then reconnect it to the harness. 11 posts · Joined 2017 Add to quote So I did a VCDS log of blocks 003, 004 and 013 on a 27 mile journey (mostly A roads). Each time, the car start, run few minutes, but no difference on the torsion value. 2 constantly, back and forth. Joined Nov 6, 2003 Location Northern Virginia TDI '04 Jetta GLS TDI Pumpe Duce Platinum Grey w/ Leather Mar 12, 2010 #6 It is possible the sensor wiring could be faulty too. In group 4 the figure you want is in the right hand box,depending on VCDS version it can be called torsion value or synchro angle either way they mean the same. Here are my readings in VCDS: Fuel consumption looks good at 0. I checked my daughters Jetta too & its the same value. 5, and i adjusted it to 0. Hello there, Have you access to VCDS the computer program scan tool created by RossTech I ask because VCDS software is used to check the torsion value. If you're noticing a lack of power at higher RPM right after a timing belt change, I strongly suspect the cam timing is a bit off. 5 and the mileage came Torsion value is good ( 0,0 KW) and no fault codes in engine module. 2008 Audi 8P 2. Joined Sep 4, 2002 Location Kansas City TDI I have golf 5 1. When I reached 2000 rpm, the torsion value became -3. PDJetta Top Post Dawg. Click to expand DARN IT! I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT HEX-NET INSTEAD OF HEX-USB Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk . So how do i get to basic settings so i can check the torsion value?! Camshaft Timing (torsion value)la motoare PD tdi Camshaft Timing (torsion value)la motoare PD tdi. 0 torsion value and the sticker seems to have 2. Top. Save Share Reply Hi guys, Need to pick your expert brains if I may. Threads merged. 0. I checked under the cover, 3 of the bolts was at center. Ross-Tech. I checked the timing today to see what the torsion value was and did a log. Got VCDS 10. Норми за Torsion Value - VCDS? От Germanecaa 15 Март 2017 в тип 8P. 9 which I think was a direct result of the cam wear. Changed the timing belt and ElsaWin says that is the job done but it is not!I was informed by a helpful forum member that there is a VCDS measuring block -0. 14 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 4 Tuesday,29,May,2012,21:47:44:51465 VCDS Version: Release 11. 2. 0 is bad, making me comfused. Mikä noista nyt on se torsion value, vcds litessä ilmeisesti muutettu nimeä jossain vaiheessa. HOWEVER - I DO NOT HAVE A TORSION VALUE IN MEASURING GROUP 004!!! As you can see, it normally appears at the end on Group 04 in the fourth box. I have VCDS lite and there is no value marked torsion value, but a value called syncro angle (units in CF?), can i confirm if is it the same ? (torsion value/syncro angle ) should it be near 0 also? My syncro angle is alternating between -2. Insanesnapshot. N. im at -3. Although I couldn't get the torque wrench on one of the 13mm exhaust bolts. de fflorynn, 24 Octombrie, 2010 în Passat B6. You will need VCDS anyway to deal with torsion value. stima ! Hi, My friend has a 2006 Jetta TDI with a 1. é assim que são So I couldn't wait, and was able to meet up with someone local off of vwvortex kind enough to let me use his VCDS tool to set the torsion value and I encountered a couple interesting things. 1. 2K views 2 replies 2 participants last post by wangjack Mar 12, 2018. Posted 18 November, 2015. Go to Engine Measuring Blocks Group 004 but the basics settings button is greyed out! If I go to basic settings instead of measuring blocks, ive only got two options, egr and charge control or something. 5 MkV and Passat B6 if memory serves. whitedog Veteran Member. Engine at 80˚, or 85˚? Ambient at 20˚ or 23˚? At sea level or 100m above? Idle speed at 700rpm or 690rpm? Those will greatly vary the "idle" MAF values. The customer had us return the value to it's original setting of -. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles Engine idling Join Date Aug 2012 Location UK Posts Hi just wondered what's the best value on group 4 of vagcom for synchro angle/torsion value, I'm after decent power and mpg I've been told -1 is good. 6 lph from 0. 0 and my mileage even got slightly worse, at 25 mpg. Hello ppl! I changed timing belt of mu Skoda Octavia mk2 1. I had a look at the Advanced Measuring Values for this vehicle's engine controller and there does not appear to be any [torsion value] data. I have seen online that you should get readings in 'x' degrees KW. my version of VCDS the last 2 boxes was showing idle Stabilization is this the correct blocks ? They Show in KW , I know a version of VCDS I had previously showed Torsion value. Share More sharing options Save a new value of 1 to reset the learned Carbon Mass. Ross-Tech does not supply KKL wires for VCDS-Lite. 0 So I was messing around with vcds. I added a bottle of Power Service Diesel Kleen to the tank yesterday but that made no improvement. The larger box to the left of the Nm box, on our US timing cover label shows the initial Torsion Value (VCDS/engine module/ measuring blocks/ Block 4), set at the factory. Tipicamente ajustavel de -6 a 6, idealmente a "sentar" no 0. 9L TDI BRM New Head, Timing Ect gets 30 MPG set the Torsion value to +1 as VW manual said but after reading your post Its seems i should be getting better, my uncle has I am aware that torsion values from the VCDS are in degrees. Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS. 0" ? When this is done, what is then the procedure to adjust the outlet cam ? Firstly the torsion setting I have noticed on several sites, some people are regarding a negative value as a retarded setting and a positive value as a advanced setting, this is the opposite to what I am seeing, as I adjust the camshaft with the 18mm centre bolt in the direction of rotation (advancing the camshaft) this adjustment shows on vcds When I look at Vcds engine measurements block 4-"main injection" I do not see a torsion value. This time the torsion value was set to 0 and the improvement was very noticeable. Went in to check torsion value and it was at -5. Torsion value. 4 when warm? Should i set to 0. Insert Quotes Post Reply So, is there a way to check timing in VCDS ? I have seen comments about a 'torsion' reading, but never anything definitive. com VIN: License Plate: Got a 2005 A3 2. 0 and need to check torsion value. 2 MB · Views: 574 20220130_153755. jpg. Third replacement sensor - implausible signal, steady torsion value of -2. First check showed -1. O. But when I go into Engine, the Measuring Blocks button is greyed out. If I plug it into my 06 Jetta TDI it shows up Where to find the Torsion Value? I know it is possible in VCDS Hello, I need to know witch cam is the one to set up correctly the torsion value on VCDS, because my engine has 16v dual cam and at the first start, the engine has too long crank. I had the cambelt tensioner adjusted and it's been fine for the last 5 months - Timing: I've tried setting the torsion value on different settings between 2. 9 77kw (PD) BXE, and for now I set torsion value (engine block 4 on vcds) at 0. My guess is that your torsion is out of range, hence the no start, but I agree with you that if you did turn the engine by hand without problems then your engine is safe. 28/11/20 #2 ; Bonjour Lionel, I decided to have a look at the torsion value on my golf using VAGCOM. 2 degrees advanced to 2. Diesel CR torsion value? Thread starter orangetech; Start date Jun 24, 2017; Status Not open for further replies. 0 Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. Also called synchro angle, group 04 vcds. @Sebisebi pune o poza cu grupurile 001, 004, 015 la ralanti Link către comentariu Distribuie pe alte siteuri. 24145 So when the diagnostic comes, I need to set the torsion value to 0. My torsion prior to cam replacement had moved from about -1. CalTDI1985 Discussion starter. 4tdi and setting the Torsion angle which I think is in block 004 I think. The tech was very sloppy and even if you could see it, it was hard to make out. I was trying to find my torsion value after doing a timing belt. 7, I have also moved the Exhaust cam forward slightly too which improved a really rough idle and bad starting issues and now it ticks over very well. 11. 2 MB · Views: 460 2 care este valoarea corecta pentru torsion value, sau mai bine zis cum se determina am atasat valorile din vcds. But it Evening, been doing a bit of searching for the correct procedure on setting the torsion value properly on a fabia vrs but only seem to find discussions, was wondering if there's a solid guide or something along the lines on the best way to read the values, Ie hot, cold, rev range etc, I've got vcds lite and a cheap cable which does the readings etc so I'll want to set the Hi all have a pd130 was just wondering if anyone's experimented with torsion value and what value is your pen car set to, if its advanced or retarded. So maybe steering is the new torsion ?. Car runs ok with good power, sometimes little smoke when idling. Is the engine badly timed, or does it have any adjustment possibilities, og does he have to pull the engine again to time the running gear (better) again. The first thing i wanted to do was check the timing by looking at the torsion value. 09 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 2 0. 2. Joined Mar 25, 2015 Location UK TDI MK4 Golf 130 PD TDI Been playing with the torsion/syncro value on my newly aquired VCDS diagnostic software (tweeking the cam sprocket) I'm finding where ever I set it, it fluctuates by 0. 5°KW Torsion Value 21:43:51 Group 013: Idle Stabilization-0. 0 to 0. 0 was a good figure and originally let it go at that. 0 that flicks to 1. The torsion value of my BKD remains unchanged, no matter what rpm I am taking him. Supposedly the TB (and W/P, but not roller/tensoner)was changed, recently, just before I bought the car (2005 BEW) at 104K Miles. 4513. For more you must purchase a full license for VCDS-Lite. one other thing, I checked my torsion value with vcds and it is at -2. 9 when cold changing to -3. and that figure should be close to zero although aware that some folk aim for, or at least accept, slight variations in region of 1 degree If My girlfriends brother did the timing belt last year and it's run a bit rough for as long as I can remember. VCDS checking torsion value. 9 litre BRM motor with 90000 miles. 0 I figured I would mess with it a bit, so I bumped the timing belt a little each direction and keep just getting 0. Torsion value READ ME - iOS Notifications - How To Enable - Guide. We use the VCDS block 15 liter per hour block to get the engine Vagcom/VCDS camshaft torsion reading. 8. Monday,26,June,2017,15:45:34:28586 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8. What is that set at? The torsion value reading was flicking from 1. I do have some logging though. 9 MB · Views: 784 20220130_153748. 6 and cable. Checked it again today with VCDS showing torsion value -2. 9. Mine is 0. Joined Dec 1, 2003 Location Alberta, CANADA TDI 2015 Passat TDI 128k km Apr 13, 2012 #1 I'm running VCDS Lite registered, and I can't find the torsion value measuring block for my 05 Passat TDI. I am down to just the P0101 code. 00 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 3 0. Jump to Latest My own experience with my Mk5 was that the value remained at -3. Mine does so between 0. . 0kw would this cause an issue? And, one final question what would be the best cam kit to get, so that I wont be doing this again in 100k miles if it is the cam? Last edited: Mar 1, 2012. 6 to 2. 50 help the starting? Ross Tech VCDS forum. 2 before that . 5 " torsion value suggest you are spot on time. The torsion value in engine module/ block 4 should be investigated along with block 15, which the third block shows liter per hour usage (ltr/hr) [What we normally find is that the idle fuel usage is I looked at VCDS, my Torsion Value is 0'9 KW. He did it without using the locking tools. To retard it I should simply turn cams counter clockwise for a bit and then start the car and check how much difference it have made to get to desired 0. La unele modele in VCDS Syncro angle apare ca Torsion value. 0 but the the idle stabilization values remaining consistent through the stall so that makes me think it's isn't a problem with a particular cylinder. Please do not open I have done vast research over 1000 km just test driving and setups on tdi cam timing or torsion value as it is said on vag tdi. Members; The torsion value was at 0 exactly. For the Mk7 cars, with the EA288 TDI engine, I haven't seen a whole lot of information about it. I saw people using group 4 engine The torsion value in VCDS reads -5. 9 MB · Views: 737 20220130_153748. solmog Member. 000 Km de la schimbarea distributiei (la 115. 2 MB · Views: 495 Mgoff5000 is suggesting that you watch that torsion value in engine block 4 column 4 (the same one you read the 0. dtreid Veteran Member. 2 BTDC for SOI. 6 is fine though. 2 on idle , is that normal? Should it move that much or at all? car is harder to start since a recent timing belt job. 0 and left it at that ,after 1 hour I startered the car it started fine but after a 20 min drive the values shot up to 7. Using VCDS's output tests cycle the EGR multiple times to see if it closes completely every single time. VCDS lets you save a list of Advanced Measuring Values, to be easily accessed later on. 5 and after 15-20 seconds - Ross-Tech does not publish a 'list' of this information, other than what the tool displays on the Measuring Value Block (MVB) Screen. Out of range is reported as "0. Now you need to connect VCDS and go to engine>measuring blocks and select group 4. 0" and that is the reason many people aim for the +0. Jun 24, 2017 #1 . Thread starter solmog; Start date Apr 1, 2015; S. I marked, then adjusted Did you manage to correct your torsion value? I have a bit of a judder at certain revs and have just found out (thanks to the help of a fellow ASN member's VCDS) that my torsion value is 3. And i'm worried damage was done. Greg . 7 degrees (up from the normal 0. 2 Data version: 20120126 I also saved other info also. As the reading is within the -3 to +3 tolerance is it still a possible problem? Should I try I would suggest getting a VCDS scan and get readouts for several groups: - torsion value - injector balance - MAF readings - turbo response "Torsion value' refers to the offset angle of the camshaft against the crankshaft position as measured by the car ECU (there is a crank position sensor and a cam position sensor in your car) . 9 l/h with all accessories off. When checking the torsion value (which I've done before but years ago) it's jumping around anywhere between 15 & 60°KW. Changed the cambelt on my passat pd tdi sport 2002 yesterday and wanted to make sure I had the cam timing spot on so I went in to VCDS and looked for the torsion value block but it's not at numb 4 as it would be in vag com, instead I get syncro value of 2. 4. Verified. But I'm dead on with injector timing in vcds according to the graph. 0. Joined Jan 27, 2019 Location Slovenia TDI 2005 VW Sharan 1. Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. windpowah Member. 2 on idle , is that normal? Should it move that much or at all on idle? car is harder to start since a recent timing belt job. Will adjusting the torsion to 2. That doesn't sound like much but it is noticeably more than my ALH and my sister (the owner) notices it. Alarm chirps, Fogs as DRLs, Rain Auto Closure + VCDS Micro-CAN. dogdots Vendor . It is measuring block 4 field 4 for PD engines. Can the timing still be off even though the torsion value is in spec? Does anyone know why my vcds lite is not showing torsion value? Has anybody fine tuned there values for maximum economy? Cheers Howey . Slight reduction in 'Idle adjustment' value in VCDS, but not sure it is even relevant Fluctuating torsion value. If you ever did put a vcds on it you would see the default value of 0 and if you tried to adjust torsion the reading would not change. I looked at his torsion value, and it is -2. I freaked out and drove real slow towards home. lwb ikyi fkl uxnkg xtb dlxithz dwe yifi rejb gdkfd